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    <title>Mariners relief pitcher Shawn Kelley having exploratory surgery tomorrow on elbow</title>
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Shawn Kelley has been away from the team for a bit as his wife was having a baby. Now, he's going to finally have that exploratory surgery tomorrow in Anaheim with Dr. Lewis Yocum on the right elbow that's kept him out of action since June 16. If the surgery uncovers something, the idea is to try to fix it right away rather than go back in for a second operation later on.
&quot;It's just to kind of see tomorrow what's going on and then take care of it,'' Mariners manager Daren Brown said.
Kelley has known for some time he'd need surgery.
&quot;He's been busy for the past couple of weeks and it's something where we pushed back the surgery and now he's going to get that done tomorrow.''
Kelley has already undergone so-called &quot;Tommy John&quot; surgery in 2003, where a ligament is transplanted from another part of the body to repair the damaged ulnar collateral ligament in a pitcher's elbow.
&quot;We all know what he's had done before,'' Brown said. &quot;Hopefully, this is something they can fix and have him ready for spring training.''
And yes, if Kelley needs more Tommy John surgery, Yocum is prepared to do it right away.
Brown was also asked about last night's baserunning gaffe involving Franklin Gutierrez.
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    <title>Los Angeles Angels at Mariners: Aug. 31, 2010 game thread</title>
    <description>Felix Hernandez is done after seven scoreless innings of three-hit ball. He lowered his ERA to 2.38, but once again will be denied a win because the Mariners did not score a single run off Dan Haren despite seven hits so far.
Seattle actually now trails 1-0 after Brandon League came on in the eighth and yielded back-to-back doubles to Alberto Callaspo and Howie Kendrick. Hernandez is no longer the pitcher of record, so he'll stay at 10-10.
But I can't believe Hernandez would be too happy with this decision. He'd thrown 103 pitches when taken out. His last start was six days ago in Boston, so he was working on extra rest. He's the staff ace and he's vying for a Cy Young.
The Mariners, though, seem committed to preserving his arm. It's a tough one, but I don't think sending a staff ace back out for the eighth inning on 103 pitches constitutes abuse. 
Seattle is now poised to lose its 81st game after the new pitcher gave up two extra base hits to two batters when his predecessor allowed just three singles over seven innings. Tough pill to swallow -- for Hernandez more than anyone.
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    <title>Los Angeles Angels at Seattle Mariners: Sept. 1, 2010 game thread</title>
    <description>Jason Vargas was nearly out of the seventh inning unscathed, but then a two-out double by Mike Napoli was followed by a two-run homer to right from Hideki Matsui. That gives the Angels a 3-2 lead as we head to the bottom of the seventh.
Ichiro leaped at the wall for Matsui's blast and for a moment it looked like we'd have a repeat of that Franklin Gutierrez catch the prior inning. But Ichiro would have needed to be standing on a stepladder for that to happen, and, so, history did not repeat itself.
Trevor Bell is out of the game and right-hander Jordan Walden is now on for the Angels.
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    <title>Angels 4, Mariners 2: Hard lessons learned all around by the M's tonight</title>
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Not everyday you get a chance to avoid pitching to Hideki Matsui with first base open and the game's worst hitter on-deck. Brandon Wood has a .404 on-base-plus-slugging percentage that makes even the game's worst slap-hitting infielders look like Babe Ruth.
There he was in the seventh inning, looking on and almost praying -- we think -- that he didn't have to step in there with two on and two out. But the Mariners and their young battery of Jason Vargas and Adam Moore let Wood off the hook.
With first base open in a 2-1 game, Vargas, who admitted he was &quot;in attack mode&quot; and trying to finish the inning off, elected to bury a fastball in on Matsui rather than pitch around him. Bad mistake. 
Matsui is now 3-for-10 lifetime off Vargas -- with all three hits leaving the yard. The home run this time became the decisive two-run blast. All of a sudden, a 2-1 lead was a 3-2 deficit. Alberto Callaspo tagged Sean White for another homer in the eighth inning and that was your ballgame.
Vargas was not happy with himself after the home run.
&quot;I was frustrated,'' he said. &quot;I feel like I'm smarter than that. He's definitely a guy who can change the game.''
I asked Vargas whether he'd even thought of Wood and maybe pitching to him instead. You never like to put the go-ahead run on base when you're winning, but we are talking about the worst OPS in all of MLB by a country mile.
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Great job by Garrett Olson to keep this a 4-3 game after the Indians loaded the bases with nobody out in the seventh inning. Olson got Michael Brantley to pop out to third base, struck out Asdrubal Cabrera and then got a flyout to left by Shin-Soo Choo.
Don't forget, last inning it was Olson coming on to replace Doug Fister with two on and one out and escaping that jam as well. The M's have three more innings to tie this thing up.
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    <title>Indians 6, Mariners 3: Doug Fister implodes, hitters go AWOL final six innings</title>
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Tonight's game is a prime example of why Mariners fans have grown so frustrated with this team. The M's began the night with seven hits the first three innings, taking a 3-0 lead with three in the third.
Then, they failed to get another hit after Russell Branyan's two-run homer in that third inning.
Doug Fister, meanwhile, after a leadoff single to begin the game, had retired 15 batters in a row. Then came the sixth inning and he couldn't get anyone out.
Six hits by the next seven batters later and Cleveland has a 4-3 lead.
Oh yeah, throw in five RBI by former M's outfielder Shin-Soo Choo, traded by Bill Bavasi for some bucket of used balls in one of the more delusional attempts at a playoff run you'll ever see, and you've got enough frustration to...to...well, I suppose, to demand something better.
Choo closed out the night's scoring with a two-run homer off Jamey Wright, allowing the Mariners to increase their lead on Cleveland in the race for better draft picks. The M's are now two up on the Indians in the race for the basement, falling to 52-82 compared to 54-80 for the Tribe.
But let's be honest. There's no way the M's should have lost a game like this to an Indians team this bad. Not with Fister on the mound. Not with the Mariners pounding Indians pitching like they had the first three innings. It's not Josh Tomlin turned into Felix Hernandez in a half inning. Looked like he'd turned into somebody else, though.
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    <title>Ryan Rowland-Smith activated from disabled list, called up from rehab assignment in Tacoma</title>
    <description>Forgive me as I get my feet wet with Mariners coverage, but I wasn't the only new face in the clubhouse this afternoon. Left-handed pitcher Ryan Rowland-Smith has rejoined the team for the first time in over a month after being activated from the disabled list. Seattle now has 26 players on the active roster.
Rowland-Smith was placed on the DL on July 28 with a lower back strain. He had five rehab starts with the Rainiers before being called up, including one last night against Colorado Springs where he allowed one run in seven innings with five strikeouts and no walks on 102 pitches.
Obviously better physically, Rowland-Smith credited Tacoma pitching coach Jaime Navarro with his improvement psychologically after having a particularly &quot;refreshing conversation.&quot;
&quot;He said, 'What it is that got you here and what is it that's given you success here? The last three years what is it that's given you success?' &quot; Rowland-Smith said. &quot;We just went back to that.
&quot;Just simplifying everything. I know it seems cliche, but in game you can't get above and beyond yourself ... I'm back to knowing what I have is good enough and staying with that and trusting that.&quot;

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    <title>FINAL: Seattle Mariners 1, Cleveland Indians 0, game thread</title>
    <description>Final. Seattle wins 1-0: It got dicey in the ninth with David Aardsma pitching, but the Mariners pulled it out. More to come.

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    <title>Mariners 1, Indians 0 -- Thankfully one run was enough</title>
    <description>I know you guys are used to a postgame wrap-up, so I'll do my best to follow suit. How about these three quotes reporters gathered tonight?
Daren Brown: &quot;Getting one in the first inning and I guess that was enough tonight.&quot; 
Adam Moore: &quot;Luckily one was enough tonight.&quot;
Michael Saunders: &quot;We got one off of him (Carmona), it's great that that was enough to win the game.&quot;
That probably tells the story from both sides of the game. Starting pitcher Luke French was phenomenal. He kept hitters off balance and rarely had a ball hit hard off him. He did throw 103 pitches through seven innings so Brown elected to have Brandon League and David Aardsma close it out. Don't discount some nice defensive plays by Michael Saunders and Moore in the ninth inning to seal the win.
The struggle continued with the bats, however. Here are the run outputs for the last 11 games: 1, 2, 3, 3, 3, 2, 0, 3, 3, 3, 0.
To be fair, Cleveland starter Fausto Carmona was solid after a shaky first inning. The eight-inning complete game was his third of the season as he dropped his ERA to 4.05. The Mariners needed to take advantage of the bases loaded, no out situation in the bottom of the first but couldn't.
Looking at the positives, Seattle won its first game in September and now only has to go 10-17 the rest of the way (if my math is right) to avoid a dreaded 100-loss season. And the pitching and defense the team showed Friday night is an encouraging sign to that aim.

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    <title>Gutierrez ill, scratched from Mariners lineup</title>
    <description>Here are tonight's lineups:
Indians
Michael Brantley CF
Asdrubal Cabrera SS
Shin-Soo Choo RF
Travis Hafner DH
Jayson Nix 3B
Matt LaPorta 1B
Trevor Crowe LF
Jason Donald 2B
Lou Marson C
Mitch Talbot RHP (8-11, 4.61)
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Ichiro RF
Chone Figgins 2B
Russell Branyan Dh
Jose Lopez 3B
Casey Kotchman 1B
Josh Bard C
Michael Saunders CF
Matt Tuiasosopo LF
Josh Wilson SS
RHP David Pauley (2-6, 4.25)
The original Mariners lineup had Franklin Gutierrez in center, Matt Tuiasosopo at third, Michael Saunders in left, and Jose Lopez on the bench. But Gutierrez was feeling ill and had to be scratched, causing a chain reaction of changes by manager Daren Brown. Lopez was inserted at third base, Tui moved to left field, and Saunders moved to center field. 
It will be the first time in his major-league career Saunders has played center at Safeco Field, though he had considerable experience in center field as a minor-leaguer.
&quot;I've seen Saunders in center field, and I'm comfortable with him in center,'' Brown said. &quot;That's not saying there might not be a mistake. I've said it before with our younger guys, they're going to make mistakes at times. You learn from them and move on.&quot;
&quot;He actually played a good center field in Tacoma the last couple of years. Same thing with Tui in left. I've seen him play left and I'm comfortable with him there.&quot;
The Mariners will try to break one streak today: They have scored three or fewer runs in their last eight consecutive games. They are 3-5 in those games.
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    <title>Game thread, Mariners vs. Indians, Sept. 4: Indians win, 4-2</title>
    <description>MARINERS NINTH:Chris Perez retires the M's in order to preserve Cleveland's 4-2 victory.
MARINERS EIGHTH:Russ Branyan leads off with his 22nd homer (12 for Seatttle, 10 for Cleveland), and the M's get runners on second and third with one out. A single away from tying it up, but Michael Saunders and Matt Tuiasosopo both strike out. 4-2 Indians. 
MARINERS SEVENTH:M's get an unearned run with two outs after the inning is prolonged on a throwing error by SS Asdrubal Cabrera on a Tui grounder (originally ruled a hit, then changed to error). Talbot hit Josh Wilson and was replaced by Chris Perez, who gave up a bloop single to Ichiro to score Tui. That's two hits for Ichiro tonight and 176 for the season. He has 26 games (and the rest of this one) to get 24 more hits. I like his chances. 4-1 Indians. 
MARINERS FIFTH:The Mariners finally get a runner past second -- all the way to third, in fact. No run, however. Michael Saunders, with one out, slices a double to left, and moves to third on Matt Tuiasosopo's ground out. Josh Wilson flies to fairly deep center for the third out. FYI, the Mariners and Indians have each been shut out 12 times, most in the American League. Only one of them can break the tie tonight. 4-0 Indians.
INDIANS FIFTH: Pauley settles down with an easy 1-2-3 innings against middle of Indians order. 4-0 Indians.
MARINERS FOURTH:indians pitcher Mitch Talbot brings to mind Fred Talbot, former Seattle Pilots pitcher and one the great characters of Jim Bouton's Ball Four. No relation, as far as I know. Talbot has a two-hit shutout through four. 4-0 Indians.
INDIANS FOURTH: Another run off Pauley. One-out bunt single by Jason Donald (whose cousin works at the Seattle Times), and two-out RBI single by Michael Brantley (whose father used to play for the Mariners). 4-0 Indians. 
MARINERS THIRD:Three up, three down for the Mariners. 3-0 Indians.
INDIANS THIRD:Pauley gives up two runs and he's lucky it wasn't more. After four straight hits to start the inning, the Indians had two in and runners at first and third, with no outs. Travis Hafner hit a shot, but right at Figgins, who doubled the runner off first. After a walk, Pauley struck out Matt LaPorta to end the inning. But the Indians have three runs, and the Mariners haven't scored more than three in their last eight games. 3-0 Indians. 
MARINERS SECOND:A leadoff single by Casey Kotchman -- and nothing more. 1-0 Indians. 
INDIANS SECOND:A 1-2-3 inning for Pauley, including the last two by strikeout to give him three whiffs through two. 1-0 Indians.
MARINERS FIRST:Russ Branyan gets a two-out, broken-bat single, but Indians starter Mitch Talbot gets Jose Lopez, a late addition to the lineup, to fly out to right. 1-0 Indians. 
INDIANS FIRST: At just about the same time the clock ran down on UW, Travis Hafner delivered a single to score Shin-Soo Choo, who had singled and stole second. All of that happened with two outs. 1-0 Indians. 
For those who have dragged themselves away from the Husky-BYU game, welcome. I have a feeling traffic will pick up considerably once that one is over. 
This game will have ramifications on the reverse standings. Currently, these two teams have the third and fourth worst record in the majors, behind Pittsburgh and Baltimore. The Indians (54-81) are one game better than the Mariners (53-82), so a Seattle win would leave them in a dead heat. 
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    <title>Numbers don't support contention that C.C. Sabathia &quot;knows how to win&quot; better than Felix Hernandez</title>
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Came across this blog post  by longtime Hartford Courant baseball writer Dom Amore, who covers the Yankees. Amore's a good guy and knows his stuff. But I think he's wrong in his contention that Felix Hernandez should be dropped from Cy Young consideration because he doesn't &quot;know how to win&quot; when the chips are down.
On the other hand, Amore lauds C.C. Sabathia of the Yankees for this ability in the following blog passage:
&quot;Sabathia doesn't have 19 wins by accident. He has them because he holds leads, finds ways on nights when he doesn't have it, such as in Chicago last weekend, and goes deep into games, deep enough to allow his team to bypass shaky middle relievers and get right to the closer.&quot;
No argument there. But by the same token, Hernandez also goes deep into games. Heck, he'd be leading the league in complete games if the Mariners weren't protecting his arm and pulling him early. He already leads the league in innings pitched, despite the limits the M's have put on him -- which tells you he goes at least as deep as Sabathia does. In fact, no other pitcher in the AL has as many quality starts as Hernandez does, so that's telling as well.
But let's get to the meat of Amore's argument. That Sabathia has shown he knows how to win better than Hernnadez has.
The numbers, quite simply, do not back this up.
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    <description>Jason Churchill notes that Nick Franklin is the minors&amp;#39; only 20-20-20(doubles) player and has lots more good stuff on the lad.
1995 STATS AOL star Justin has been lured out of the woodwork by the M&amp;#39;s hurricane of young hitting talent.
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    <title>Tom Wilhelmsen</title>
    <description>The Mariners had already announced which prospects they were sending to compete in the Arizona Fall League, but the rosters posted today featured a swap.  Tacoma Rainiers reliever Dan Cortes has been removed from the Peoria Javelinas pitching staff and Clinton Lumberkings starter Tom Wilhelmsen will head to Arizona to take his place. Wilhelmsen was [...]</description>
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    <description>By now you may have read or read about Geoff Baker&amp;#8217;s article about the acquisition of Josh Lueke and the apparent disconnect between Mariners then-pitching coach Rick Adair, GM Jack Zduriencik, President Chuck Armstrong and Rangers GM Jon Daniels with regards to the felony charges, jail time and baseball suspension Lueke and the Rangers dealt [...]</description>
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    <description>1 run difference in final game score = +16 excitement points for a win, -16 for a loss
2 run difference = +/-8
3-4 runs = +/-4
5-9 runs = +/-2
10+ runs = +/-1
Rays: +155
Philadelphia: +154
Yankees: +145
Reds: +132
Twins: +127
Rangers: +123
Padres: +114
Brewers: +76
Giants: +75
Red Sox: +74
Braves: +68
Dodgers: +50
Rockies: +21
White Sox: +20
Angels: +15
Astros: +15
Oakland: -6
Marlins: -14
Blue Jays: -52
Royals: -58
Cardinals: -60
Orioles: -79
Detroit: -88
Indians: -97
Diamondbacks: -119
Mets: -126
Nationals: -130
Mariners: -149
Pirates: -149
Cubs: -237
Numbers may not add up to 0 due to lethargy. Your misery experience is a combination of personal, genetic, and environmental factors that cannot be encompassed in a single number. Alternate scoring suggestions welcome. 
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    <description>French vs Carmona, 7:10 pm.  
I wonder if you could find two less similar pitchers to match up against each other.  Strasburg vs Moyer, maybe.  
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    <description>Talbot vs Pauley, 7:10 pm.  
Last year&amp;#8217;s USSM event at Safeco featured Ian Snell, and after he was horrible, the major league debut of Doug Fister.  This year, we get Pauley.  Perhaps next year, I&amp;#8217;ll demand that they make it a Felix night whether its his turn or not.  
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    <title>Game 138, Mariners at A&amp;#8217;s</title>
    <description>Vargas vs Anderson, 1:05 pm. 
Sorry we missed yesterday&amp;#8217;s game thread.  Everything should be back to normal starting tomorrow.  Felix is pretty good, eh?
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    <title>USSM Chat &amp;#8211; 9/7/10</title>
    <description>I&amp;#8217;m on the plane back to NC and figured I&amp;#8217;d take advantage of the wifi and some downtime to do another chat, since the last one was pretty well received.  Let&amp;#8217;s see how this works from 35,000 feet.  
USSM Chat
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